Conversations
-
Does Lenina die?
I'm sort of unclear about the end, I'm sure that it's probably supposed to be open to interpretation...but does the Savage actually end up killing her?
Julie Sullivan about 1 year ago
Advertisement
More Stuff
About Us
LivingSocial.com is a social discovery and cataloging network that allows people to review and share their favorite movies, books, games, music, restaurants and beer

Add Bookmark

Yep, I think that it should be left up to the reader's interpretation. As in many cases, such as the Giver or 1984, and many others the end is left ambiguous, perhaps for the purpose of getting the reader to continue contemplating the novel long after it is read.
Christopher Backes about 1 year agoEverything I have read *about* Brave New World has said that she died at the end, but who knows if that was the intent of Mr. Huxley.
Christina Mason about 1 year agoI think that, Lenina killes herself, she's so used to live in her own cristall ball and she's not open minded enough to adapt herself to this all new world that she's just letting herself die without even trying...
Polina Ta about 1 year agoI would like to disagree. She heavily relied on soma during the expedition to the Reservation, why wouldn't she do the same for this incident? Therefore, I believe that Lenina took an extra dose of drugs and returned to the pointless existence in Huxley's "utopia".
But of course her fate can be argued because it is ambigious. Ambiguity makes for good discussion.
Julius Grocholski about 1 year agoJohn, the "savage", is ironically the least savage of all the characters in the book, and could not have killed Lenina - it just isn't in his character. John is Huxley's Christ-figure.
Facebook User about 1 year agoMy initial assumption was that John did end up killing Lenina, but there was so much chaos at the moment, he probably did not finish her off.
Jordan P. Gigler about 1 year agoAs far as John goes, I think it's sort of an Edward Scissorhands situation, if you will - he simply could not assimilate or understand 'civilization,' and reacted in violent, sporadic ways. He had more passion then all of the others put together and could not harness it.
but john's also really emotional and impulsive. remember how he reacted when lenina wanted to sleep with him? i really thought he was going to hurt her. i don't know, he seems like the type that could kill her or at least hurt her pretty badly and then regret it. especially since he's all confused and isolated in this different world.
Cathy Messier about 1 year agoI thought that he just beat her to a pulp and felt bad about it because he actually caused her serious injury. I did have the same question, which is why i opened the post. I think he didn't kill her.
Josh 'Hawaii' Nelson about 1 year agoI didn't think she died at all...? was this before he went to the lighthouse?
Facebook User about 1 year agomy initial interpretation was that there was a kind of lord of the flies mob-think going on like when they killed simon in that book. it may have been john and the others, who were on soma as well at the time, giving in to group think which was the ultimate demise of lenina....or she survived and took another soma holiday. i would too if i was attacked.
Facebook User about 1 year agoNonsense. Of course she doesn't die. John Savage begins beating her - and I think his intention is murderous - but the tourists and journalists turn his frenzied attack into one more of their torrid orgies. The implication is that John Savage becomes a part of this, and his remorse and shame is the result of having sex with Lenina, and in one blow shattering everything he had turned to, and defiling himself (by his penitent's logic) beyond hope of salvation.
Facebook User about 1 year agoPersonally, I do not think Lenina died but Ii think she might have been induced into the same fate as Linda.
Megan Meek about 1 year agoI think the deliberate parallels between John and Lenina's relationship and Romeo and Juliet suggest that she probably did die.
Sam Macaulay 10 months agoI don't think she dies. She is beaten black and blue, that's true, but the medical care was so good that she'd have been saved even if she was on the verge of dying. The point isn't about her fate anyway, it is that of the Savage and the physical destruction of the earth and society as it once was and the destruction of sentimental morality in the future
Katharine Williams 9 months agoi believe this is the synopsis that makes most sense.
Rhonda Michelle Lette 9 months ago"John, the "savage", is ironically the least savage of all the characters in the book, and could not have killed Lenina - it just isn't in his character. John is Huxley's Christ-figure."
Facebook User 9 months agoNail on the head. John represents all which is innocent ,chast, pure - after realizing his participation in the mob, he becomes morally reprehensible filled with utter fear of his actions which defy all of his principles, leading to his self destruction.
Yes, I believe she kills herself. She begins to see the truth of her artificial existence. She begins to feel pain and emotions and most of all Love. Mustapha says that the Brave New World is Christianity without the tears...ignorance. Her burden of knowing the truth is too much for her to bear-yes, I believe she kills herself.
Mia Maria Christina Tarre 4 months agoI feel that he does kill her in the end. The complacency of the society wouldn't think anything of her dieing right in front of them. Huxely makes a point that they all were in a soma induced orgy doing the same things (all-be-it at a lower intensity) to each other. They basically treated this as a feely and wouldn't have reacted much to it. I would imagine that the people whom visited the following day would have noticed the body which brings doubt to my previous conclusion but they are all desensitized to death so it would probably be just as if you or I saw a dead deer on the side of the road. Either way, I am not quite sure I enjoyed the end of the book as much as the rest. Maybe I would more if I had someone to explore the themes of the book at a deeper level.
Kevin Hutchens 4 months agoThe ending is yours to write.
Daniel Wilkenson 2 months ago