The primary lesson of the book is that those societies (past, present or future) that do not adopt long term, proactive and preventative environmen... (show more)
Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed
In his million-copy bestseller Guns, Germs, and Steel, Jared Diamond examined how and why Western civilizations developed the technologies and immunities that allowed them to dominate much of the world. Now in this brilliant companion volume, Diamond probes the other side of the equation: What caused some of the great civilizations of the past to collapse into ruin, and what can we learn from their fates?
As in Guns, Germs, and Steel, Diamond weaves an all-encompassing global thesis throug... (show more)
In his million-copy bestseller Guns, Germs, and Steel, Jared Diamond examined how and why Western civilizations developed the technologies and immunities that allowed them to dominate much of the world. Now in this brilliant companion volume, Diamond probes the other side of the equation: What caused some of the great civilizations of the past to collapse into ruin, and what can we learn from their fates?
As in Guns, Germs, and Steel, Diamond weaves an all-encompassing global thesis through a series of fascinating historical-cultural narratives. Moving from the Polynesian cultures on Easter Island to the flourishing American civilizations of the Anasazi and the Maya and finally to the doomed Viking colony on Greenland, Diamond traces the fundamental pattern of catastrophe. Environmental damage, climate change, rapid population growth, and unwise political choices were all factors in the demise of these societies, but other societies found solutions and persisted. Similar problems face us today and have already brought disaster to Rwanda and Haiti, even as China and Australia are trying to cope in innovative ways. Despite our own societys apparently inexhaustible wealth and unrivaled political power, ominous warning signs have begun to emerge even in ecologically robust areas like Montana.
Brilliant, illuminating, and immensely absorbing, Collapse is destined to take its place as one of the essential books of our time, raising the urgent question: How can our world best avoid committing ecological suicide? (show less)
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My rating probably wouldnt be so low if I wasnt forced to compare the book to its prequil Guns Germs and Steel. I was pretty disappointed with it o... (show more)
My rating probably wouldnt be so low if I wasnt forced to compare the book to its prequil Guns Germs and Steel. I was pretty disappointed with it overall. I felt like the author was too intent on setting up the book in the same way he did GGS. I can understand why, I wouldve gone there with it too. What I cant understand is why he didnt just let the book take its own direction once it became so apparent that his first approach wasnt working out. I dont feel as though reading collapse completed the bigger picture for me nor did it enhance my GGS experience. I had a hard time getting through some of it. I think it was chapter 4 or 5 that just was so dry and wordy, i didnt think i was going to make it. That is saying a lot coming from me because I have loved and read a lot of books that the average person would consider dry. My advice is - if you want to read both read collapse first. (show less)
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Never in my life have I been more impacted by a work of non-fiction than by "Collapse". I believe this book to be absolutely required reading of anyone who questions the practices of the first world, believes that our current problems are insignificant, or who ever wonders what the future holds for us personally, and our societies as a whole (both nationally and now globally).
The first half of the book is an extensive history lesson in societal collapse, and what it means to us to... (show more)
Never in my life have I been more impacted by a work of non-fiction than by "Collapse". I believe this book to be absolutely required reading of anyone who questions the practices of the first world, believes that our current problems are insignificant, or who ever wonders what the future holds for us personally, and our societies as a whole (both nationally and now globally).
The first half of the book is an extensive history lesson in societal collapse, and what it means to us today. The second half studies modern collapses and then masterfully brings every lesson learned throughout the various analyses to craft solid arguments for the potentially catastrophic environmental problems facing societies today.
The book ends on a cautiously optimistic tone which left me personally stunned and with a new-found respect for the interconnectedness of the past and present, and of societies with every other society and with the world as a whole. Masterfully researched and crafted; beautifully written; a book I will never forget. (show less)
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"Collapse" is an easy recommendation for someone looking for a mix of history, anthropology
and ecology, in an series of case studies that are proven to be absolutely relevant for the 21st century.A sobering, comprehensive look at failed societies, both ancient and modern. Informative and engaging, "Collapse" is broken up into chapters which describe the destruction of about a dozen civilizations and the factors that lead to their demise.
"Collapse" is writte... (show more)
"Collapse" is an easy recommendation for someone looking for a mix of history, anthropology
and ecology, in an series of case studies that are proven to be absolutely relevant for the 21st century.A sobering, comprehensive look at failed societies, both ancient and modern. Informative and engaging, "Collapse" is broken up into chapters which describe the destruction of about a dozen civilizations and the factors that lead to their demise.
"Collapse" is written in a similar style to "Guns, Germs and Steel", but the subject matter is both more varied and more engrossing than that of his previous book. Each chapter contains a substantial amount of information, but the effect isn't at all overwhelming.
"Collapse" is thought-provoking, but it's also depressing. Jarod Diamond makes a convincing connection between the factors that brought down ancient societies at their peak and the factors that are affecting modern societies today. He lays out the reasons why the world as we know it today won't be sustainable past the mid 21st century. He makes a perfunctory attempt to end the book on an optimistic note, but by that point, he's already made his case; the world is already at its limit of resource consumption, and as populations of third-world nations strive for first-world living standards, the total impact of the world's population will far exceed what the planet can sustain. (show less)
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Can't technology save us from ruining our environment?
In chapter 16, Jared Diamond insists that new technologies (like alternative energy) cannot save us from environmental collapse because they will take a lot of time to develop and implement. He also stated that new technologies always have unintended consequences. I found this assertion the most disturbing because I guess that I put a lot of value on technology as solution. What do you think? Is there any other solution than to scale back our standard of living?
Ilene R. Bach about 1 year ago -
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The Geographical vs. the Historical Method
I have seen a few reviews decrying the book as horrible, and complaining about various aspects of archaeological or historical interpretation. The book is clearly neither, it is apparent to me that it is an attempt to show geographical influences on societal crisis. As such it puts forward it's case from this perspective and then takes various case studies to support the thesis.
The geographical and environmental analysis is sound, and fairly measured. It does not attempt to take on Narrative elements, and as we all know individuals can shape the course of human events, and Diamond not only concedes the point, but shows how the individuals involved can be instrumental in avoiding the worst effects of ecological stress on societies.
I found both his insistence that while elements of ecological stress could be in common the end results rarely were. He seemed determined to set aside any predictive notion of the comparison as opposed to Germs, Guns and Steel where he was much more assertive about his theories of north-south axis being a limiting factor for the development of the spread of societies. (and in that case there is a good strong bio-geographical case for the assertion... latitude and altitude have very significant and predictive impacts on biomes and their supportive capacity.)
Is it just an objection to his conclusions, or to his methodology that people have had to this work?
Allen Maher about 1 year ago -
Jared Diamond's Books
I believe Collapse, together with Guns, Germs and Steel were the best books in Diamond's repertoire. Moving on to the third chimpanzee, he proved he was only trying to repeat the success of Guns, Germs and Steel. Some prejudices, or rather the effort of avoiding prejudices, permeate into the third ape. He tries to cramm so many facts as he did in this book, yet fails, or rather ends up displaying notoriously irrelevant facts at some points.
Furthermore he discards theories because he regards them as sexist. I know today we think about that, but I really don't imagine a tribe of cavemen sharing all the tasks with a pregnant woman. This would strike me as unsustainable from an evolutionary viewpoint, and still the fact that sexual roles would sound sexist, does not prevent animals from doing it.
So in conclusion, thumbs up for his analysis on societies rise and collapse, and its relation to the environment, but, I would rather go for The Naked Ape, instead of The Third Chimpanzee.
Roberto Macias about 1 year ago
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