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The Path of Daggers (The Wheel of Time, Book 8)

Robert Jordan
 
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The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time.

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It's a hit!

Previously during one of the rereads before Gathering Storm, I cited that Jordan had Hubris. Well this book far more shows that Hubris then any pri... (show more)

Previously during one of the rereads before Gathering Storm, I cited that Jordan had Hubris. Well this book far more shows that Hubris then any prior book. What a disservice.

This is before Jordan showed any signs of his illness. So where does the blame lie for such a poor book. Where before we have intricate plots ever more involved, here we have a whole bunch of peanuts.

You have to crack a lot of shelves to get through to the meat and then it ends up being a whole lot of bother.

When you open this book, you note that it is smaller than the others of the series, and then you start reading and notice that type is not dense. By the end of the book you have paid full price for half a book.

You note this more as you read the plot lines Jordan has given us and start seeing a great deal of nothing. It is a travelogue of places we have yet to see. There is action eventually but still, much of what was told could have taken half the space, and some of the plot lines that should be here, are not.

The first fifty pages, after seven complete books, is a reverse of time. Mat experiences the Seachan landing in Ebou Dar, and we go back through it with the Aes Sedai who had already left in the seventh book.

Once again time is played with and Jordan does not care.

Speaking of Mat, well that is all we can do, he is not in this book, just as Perrin was missed before. Egwene, hardly worth a mention for the chapters that are devoted to her, even as we know a Forsaken is in her midst.

Rand, who is still the main protagonist, has a hundred or so pages of good, but with the time scale off, and the battle he tries to fight, maps are sorely needed. The little vignettes during this campaign, do not do justice what the entire campaign was to do.

So we get to the end and realize we paid full price for another transition book, even less fulfilling then before.

You have to read this to get further in the series, and because the series is good. But Jordan and his memory still should be chastised. If this was the first book in the series, the series would have died then. (show less)

 
David William Wilkin
 
by David William Wilkin
No, it's a flop!

I knew I shouldn't have left off reviewing this for a few days. I have almost forgotten what happened in this book.

Oh, I know the events that tra... (show more)

I knew I shouldn't have left off reviewing this for a few days. I have almost forgotten what happened in this book.

Oh, I know the events that transpired - Borderland kings and queens assembling to deal with Rand in some mysterious way; the using of the Bowl of the Winds to finally change the weather - and the terrible bargain that it fulfills between the Sea Folk and the Aes Sedai; the second invasion of the Seanchan from across the sea, this time into Ebou Dar; Perrin building his army to bring the violent Dragonsworn who follow The Prophet back to Rand....

And that's all just in the first ten chapters.

It's not a matter of, as is so often complained about, "nothing happening" - plenty happens in this book. In fact, a lot of what happens in this book directly sets up the rest of the series, and marks some major changes not only in the plot but in the world of the story itself. The problem is that the format of the first half of the series - a reasonably self-contained book that has a clear story climax and some sense of closure by the end - has completely fallen by the wayside. At this point, Jordan is writing for the series as a whole, and has only divided it up into separate volumes because TOR can't sell it any other way.

This does have its advantages, but the disadvantages are greater. So of all the books thus far, I'd have to say that The Path of Daggers is my least favorite. Again - and I want to keep stressing this - not because there's nothing going on. There's plenty going on. It's just not all that easy to keep track of, nor is it necessarily interesting to read.

The worst example of this, I think, is the Seanchan invasion. To catch you up, the Seanchan are an empire that lives in the land across the sea. Descended from the greatest king in history, Artur Hawkwing, they have returned to reclaim their ancestral lands. To do it, they have brought an army that has been trained by a thousand years of battle, creatures that seem like monsters to do their bidding, and leashed women who can wield the One Power as a weapon. Even under normal circumstances, this would be a problem. For Rand, circumstances are far from normal. The Seanchan mark a serious complication in his quest to bring all the nations under his rule in time for the Last Battle, so he has to show them who's boss.

Surprisingly, with a massive army and a corps of Asha'man - men who can wield the One Power to destructive ends - dealing with the Seanchan becomes a tedious chore to read. Perhaps in an attempt to capture "the fog of war," Jordan has us jumping from place to place and time to time, from a variety of points of view. What could have been an awesome clash of armies, men and women really going all-out with the One Power in battle for the first time becomes a trial to read. Not least because Rand al'Thor has become a thoroughly unlikable character.

In the middle of the book, Sorilea, the most senior and powerful of the Aiel Wise Ones meets with Cadsuane, an Aes Sedai so formidable that she has become a legend in her own lifetime, and they agree that Rand has become too hard. "Strong endures," Sorilea says. "Hard shatters." They vow to teach Rand and the Asha'man to remember laughter and tears, and if you ask me they're not doing it a minute too soon.

Rand is doing his best to harden his heart by this point, and not without reason. He's got armies at his fingertips, and his decisions will kill a lot of men. He's got these Asha'man to deal with - men who will inevitably go mad from using the One Power - and he can only bring himself to think of them as weapons. There's his issue with allowing women to come to harm. Instead of being an endearing (if somewhat chauvinistic) character trait, it just becomes tedious and repetitive. Thankfully, the Maidens of the Spear will later beat the hell out of him for trying to treat them so delicately. In this book, it is almost impossible for me to actually like Rand, and makes me wish that Mat hadn't been given one book off to recover from having a building dropped on him.

Other than the complete mess that is Rand's storyline, the rest of the book is actually quite interesting. Elayne has finally come home to Caemlyn and is preparing to take her mother's place as Queen of Andor. We have the rebel Aes Sedai preparing for all-out war with the White Tower, and Egwene consolidating her hold on the rebels. In the White Tower itself, a hunt for the Black Ajah has begun as Elaida does what little she can to free herself of the influence of her Keeper, Alviarin.

A word about Elaida do Avriny a'Roihan, as an aside. No one likes her, and I can understand why. I don't like her either, as a person. She's arrogant to the bone, impatient, self-absorbed, power-hungry, and completely disregards anything that doesn't conform to what she already believes is true. This mode of thinking leads the White Tower towards utter disaster, from the botched abduction of Rand to the loss of fifty sisters to the Black Tower. Elaida risks being stilled and deposed should the Hall of the Tower find out about her bungling, and she would deserve it, if not more. The only thing keeping her from that fate is the machinations of her Keeper of the Chronicles, who is more than happy to put Elaida under her thumb.

Having said that, it was this book that made her into one of my favorite characters. I still wouldn't want to sit next to her on a long airplane ride, but what happens to her in this book made me utterly devoted to finding out her ultimate fate in this series.

That pretty much sums it up, actually - taken as a whole, this book is pretty tough to get through and probably the low point in the series, despite having some of the most interesting and pivotal events take place within its pages. How Jordan managed to do this, I'll never know. All we can do is take the long view - all of this will benefit the series as a whole, if not necessarily the book that contains it. (show less)

 
Chris Gladis
 
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    Well, I finally picked up on my "listen-through" of of Wheel of time, now that the library has had the book on CD in for that last 9 months or so. Maybe more. In any case, the book is fun but is so complicated that it's really hard to stop and start reading and the books are way too long, especially if you're listening, to reread the whole series. In any case, now is a good time to start listening, as the readers are fabulous, and with Brandon Sanderson on the job of finishing th... (show more)

    Well, I finally picked up on my "listen-through" of of Wheel of time, now that the library has had the book on CD in for that last 9 months or so. Maybe more. In any case, the book is fun but is so complicated that it's really hard to stop and start reading and the books are way too long, especially if you're listening, to reread the whole series. In any case, now is a good time to start listening, as the readers are fabulous, and with Brandon Sanderson on the job of finishing the series, it should wrap up in two years as he's a very dependable producer. Being such a fan of his other work, I can't wait to get to the first volume that he published, not that Jordan isn't a great writer too. The story in this particular volume isn't exactly all that interesting or even satisfying but good enough to make you want to continue the series. (show less)

     
     
    by Facebook User on Nov 29, 2009 at 03:51PM

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  • Kelly Waugh

    Sadly, it took me a long time to get through this book. In an honesty, it put down and forgotten about several times. There are many reasons for this - not all of them because of the book, although a few were. There were a surprising number of slow parts that left me lacking interest, but when I got around to trying again, I invariably came to interesting story developments that piqued my curiousity. That, combined with some major changes in my personal life (new roommates, and the purcha... (show more)

    Sadly, it took me a long time to get through this book. In an honesty, it put down and forgotten about several times. There are many reasons for this - not all of them because of the book, although a few were. There were a surprising number of slow parts that left me lacking interest, but when I got around to trying again, I invariably came to interesting story developments that piqued my curiousity. That, combined with some major changes in my personal life (new roommates, and the purchase of my first home) made it difiicult to stay on top of this book -- but I never gave up, and in the end it was worth the time put in. Typically, the end picked up momentum and created several cliffhangers that have me motivated to start the next one. (show less)

     
     
    by Kelly Waugh on Sep 17, 2009 at 01:01AM

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