yeah, but even when we had great talent that was seasoned a few years, we weren't THAT good. Only constant from then to now is coaching.

It could be, but I really think a lot of it is due to the fact that our point guards weren't quite matured yet. Dale Race actually said after the 06-07 season that he thought this team was two years away from being really good.

We gotta find what's broken. Scouting is solid, there is good talent here. Maybe it's the coaching?

Let's give it next year with the seniors and the young point guards. I think it will be good. Go Phoenix!

we get the talent every year, and we can keep that if we get another good scouting coach, but he should've had this team well above .500 by now.

the 09-10 season starts now too if we don't finally cut our losses and drop Kowalczyjk.

Well, next season starts now...

And the GB women's coach isn't having an epic meltdown all over YouTube...

Well, at least us Green Bay fans have to women to look forward to. They lost their coach and they are still awesome.

The only incoming freshman that i know of is Eaton, a 6'5" guard from indiana. A 48.1% 3-point shooter in high school. http://uwgb athletics.cstv.com/s ports/m-baskbl/spec- rel/111407aaa.html

At least there's a chance we can win Tuesday. Valpo is beatable.

I am looking forward to next season. Fletcher will get better, Schachtner and Tillema will be better, and if Coach K gets some more young talent in, GB can make a run

tuff break for the phoenix not to get a home game for the horizon league tournament, especially because they could win a game or two. we've won at least one game against all of our 1st 3 matchups (Valpo 1-1, UDM 2-0/WSU 1-1, CSU 1-1).

This has been a frustrating season, but on the bright side we only lose one senior. Tevah served his purpose at times, but for the most part we lost a bench player. Here to better times.

Matt, as much of a fan as i am, i have to agree with the "underachievers" label. I can only hope that with another year's experience, this team can really shine

Is it time to start calling the Phoenix underachievers? With the talent on this team, they should be winning more games.

Time to start looking for next year. At least Fletcher is a gamer and he's only a Freshman. If Schachtner and Tillema keep playing well and Coach K keeps bringing in young talent, GB can possibly make a run for the Horizon title next year.

As for Y'stown, we shouldve won but ish happens

I still like GB, tho they dont have the best this season, i think that next year will be a breakout season cuz of all the seniors we will have